I was scooting about in cyberspace a couple of days ago and came across this post,
Christian Indoctrination, written by a 16 year old guy who isn't a Christian and who attends a Christian school. He's attended Christian schools for a total of six years, and has spent four and a half years at his current school. Very interesting post, which I will add has been guest posted on his Mum's blog. Since he doesn't give his name, and I don't want to call him Meg's son through my whole post, I'll refer to him as MS for short.
MS asked what people think of the ideas in his post. I think he said some great things in that post, but before I get to those I want to respond to the pretty big negative that he has up near the beginning, which is this:
"Which is where I’m coming from when I’m writing this, a non-Christian in the heart of a fundamental Baptist school. I’ve dealt with peer pressure on the topic in the bucket loads, absolutely backwards fundamentalists, and speeches that seem eerily reminiscent in tone and substance to those that preceded the infamous Kristallnacht."I'm looking at that from the perspective of my own ancestry, my faith, and the years I've spent researching the holocaust. So this statement strikes me as one of those comparisons that is pretty hefty but not necessarily accurate. In all the years I've been a Christian I've only ever heard one speech from a Christian which I think I could lump in with the sort of speeches that preceded Kristallnacht. So when I read that MS has heard speeches reminiscient in
tone and
substance to that kind of anti-semitic ranting I'm thinking, "If it's that bad why have you been at school there for four and half years?" Because if you are in a place which is propagating ideas that have not only the tone but the kind of
substance the speeches of Nazi Germany had - you are not only in a damaging environment, but your attendance there helps perpetuate that.
If it's really like that. (In other words I'm making a rhetorical point, not actually questioning where he goes to school). But let me say, that having been a Christian for several years, I can only think of one occasion when I've heard a speech from a Christian that I would compare to Nazi rhetoric - and that was some guy from overseas who appeared on radio proposing that a certain group of people all be rounded up and sent to live on a separate island. Can't remember his name, and he made no great impact on anyone, Christian or otherwise. I do remember how abhorrent his idea was, and to this day I question if he was a Christian because he sure didn't sound like one. To get some perspective, the people I hear who make speeches with the
tone and
substance that would precede Kristallancht are those who are pseudo-Christians - the Ku Klux Klan, the "Christian Identity" movement, Fred Phelps and his Westboro "Baptist" church... Hate groups that are not Christians at all. And what they have in common with Nazism, apart from their hateful rhetoric, is that they are all revisionists. They edit and revise Christian belief into something that is the opposite. Which is what the Nazi leaders did when they came up with the "Nazi Bible" - a short volume since they removed huge parts of it, such as the Old Testament, because they objected to "the history of the Jews". There were pseudo-Christians in the Nazi era too. As an aside, Christian pastor and theologian
Dietrich Boehoeffer is famous for resisting the Nazis attempts to control church belief and practice. My point here is to say let's be careful about using extreme analogies.
But then MS goes on to say:
"On the other hand, I’ve also seen some of the best that Christianity has to offer, I’ve seen the good that those who truly practice what they preach have done for the school and local communities, three of whom I’d count amongst my closest of friends. This seeming contradiction in extremes has made me think long and hard about the role of religion in education, and I’ve come up with an idea that I’d like some of you to critique."I like that there's a positive there to bring more balance, although I wonder if there is as much of an extreme as MS proposes. It does sound like there are some people who are evidently genuine in their faith - because it shows in what they do. Which brings me to three points I'd like to make here:
1. Being born into a Christian family doesn't make you a Christian.
2. Attending a Christian school doesn't make you a Christian.
3. Living in a Western nation doesn't make you a Christian.
The first two should be obvious if one knows anything about Christianity. And the the third, well that comes in response to two things. Firstly, I have over the last 3-4 years had some discussion with muslims from the other side of the world who seem to think that whatever the West does is done in the name of Christianity. e.g. They refer to actions of certain countries as "Christian" or what "Christianity" is doing. The war in Iraq is cited as an example. I think this occurs because of the fact that these particular people live in countries with Islamic govts, and don't make the distinction that in the West our govts. are not religious - democracy does not represent one group only. Western govts. are not Christian govts. The other reason goes to something MS brought up in the comments on his post:
"Every school teaches Christian values in class, as we are a Judeo-Christian society whose very fundamental laws and rules are pretty much lifted from the Bible word for word. Christian schools teach to convert more so than just teaching the facts for people to make up their own mind.""Judeo-Christian" is a term that I find problematic. What is it supposed to mean? I'm not just saying that in response to MS, but because I've seen this term a lot. But using the term for now, what I'll add here is that I disagree with the generalisation that every school teaches "Judeo-Christian" values, or that society is based on them or reflects them. Western society is also heavily indebted to the Ancient Greeks for what it values - like democracy, the educational disciplines, metaphysics, logic, ethics, Aristotle's poetics and the dramatic arts, Homer's epic story telling and heroism in narrative - and many other things. As well as that, let's not confuse values with rules. One of the biggest values in Christianity is faithfulness. Actually it's a big value for many non-Christian people too. I have never met anyone who agrees with their husband or wife having extra-marital affairs. Even though "society"
seems to value adultery - at least popular tv and movies seem to. I could give plenty of examples of the prevalent mantra in entertainment, stated both overtly and covertly, that "you can't help who you fall in love with even if it is some-one else's spouse". But for now one is
The English Patient, which was lauded as a great love story. It was about a man who had an affair with some-one else's wife, and whose stupidity ended up betraying people whose lives were at risk. In terms of fundamental laws, there is no law against adultery in any Western country I know of. I'm not saying there should be, but I am saying that while some of our laws come from a biblical basis, that is not comprehensive. The laws and values of a secularly governed society do not sum up Christianity. In some aspects they differ markedly from Christianity. And they differ from what other groups believe too. Simply attending any school is not going to result in a student picking up Christian values. And being a true Christian means the values are the result of a spiritual renewal, not the cause of it.
OK, not my intention to be heavy but MS did ask for a
critique and I'm not into patronising the guy by shirking the hard stuff. Onto the next point, which is the issue of "indoctrination". Let me say MS makes some marvellous points in his post about practicing what you preach, and in fact goes further than that to touch on the evidence of being a true Christian. I'll get to some of that, but first I want to pose a few questions. Is it wrong for members of a religious and/or cultural group to have their own schools? Where I live there are Christian schools, there is a Jewish school, and there is a muslim school, and there may be others. Should the govt. determine what kind of school a child attends, and do they have the right to say children can't be schooled in the religion and cultural beliefs of their parents and their religious/cultural community? If the govt. shouldn't determine that, then should we? You see I don't know of anyone who isn't "indoctrinated" in some way. Even those who say they are atheists have mutually reinforced beliefs. Whether we like it or not we do get taught what to think and believe by our parents, our teachers, the media, the politicians (well they try), and our friends. We do fall prey too often to intellectual laziness insead of critiquing what is coming to us. But we are also, from the time we are tots, "indoctrinated" - like learning not to throw a tantrum which is detrimental to the well-being of others in ear-splitting range. That stuff. It's enforced on us. Other stuff isn't enforced. And that leads to the crux question - is what is being taught useful, productive, ethically for the better, and delivered ethically? So we need to get under the "indoctrination" label and ask: Is what is being taught helpful or harmful? I'd say that if some-one attends a private school for four and a half years by choice, even though they don't hold the common beliefs the school is basing itself on, then overall they must find it helpful rather than harmful.
Moving on, let's look at something MS says which nails it:
"Here’s where almost five years of being the vocal non-religious person at a very religious school has led me. Quite frankly, people who say they’re of the faith, but do absolutely nothing to live by any of the guidelines set by it, and just go around making a bad name for it, are good to absolutely no one. They’re not good for Christians, they’re not good for non-Christians, they’re good for absolutely no one."Which speaks for itself. We don't need more pseudo-Christians. By the way, I'm not saying all pseudo-Christians are like Nazis here. I'm saying all pseudo-Christians are fake. And if there's one thing I know, having spent enough years in the past not being a Christian and being quick to criticise those who are - people can usually spot a fake. So MS has hit it on the head with that, and not ony would I have agreed with him on that before I was a Christian, I also heartily agree now. Then he asks:
"Which is why I can’t figure out why people are being pressured into the religion at a young age without actually knowing the first thing about what it means to be Christian, what it entails, what it is. Instead, why can’t they do the seemingly most obvious thing? Simply; teach what Christianity is. What it’s about. What it means to be a Christian, what it means to have a relationship with Jesus, and then, leave the rest up to you?"Good question. It has more than one part to it. If MS means teach how you become a Christian then that's one thing. But teach what Christianity is and what it's about? That's huge - that covers spirituality, motives, behaviour, communal expression, history, theology, apologetics, service, mission, persecution and more. I don't know what they teach at MS's school, but I would say that we have a history, and that Christianity is not an individualistic exercise. We do this together, and if we teach what Christianity is about we've got a lot to talk about. This is also about ones worldview. Everyone has a worldview - a perspective which is informed by their own beliefs. No-one is neutral in that regard. I would expect a Christian school to inform from a Christian perspective - not only on "having a relationship with Jesus", but on what it means to be a Christian in every aspect of ones life, and what it means to be part of a continuous community. I don't see that as any more "pressured" than a non-Christian environment which teaches certain things from certain perspectives. e.g. there can be a secular pressure to split our values from our work, so that we split faith into our private life and our work into our public life. Problem: Then we get people who don't live out their Christianity at work (or at school) because the Christian belief is considered only a private thing, and the pressure is to not be fully Christan wherever we are. But what I'll add here is that becoming a Christian is not dependent on having a whole lot of knowledge
about Christianity to start with, and there is not some minimum age limit set in terms of a child expressing spirituality. Since I know a number of people who became true Christians at very early ages, even at pre-school ages, and they are still Christians as adults, I'd say we can't cut off those kids from hearing about Christianity, and from learning how that is lived in every aspect of life.
And that brings me to MS's point about walking the talk. It seems to me that his main criticism is that in a school environment that carries the label "Christian" there are too many people who don't live as Christians. He has a couple of criticisms in his post that I agree with - like the way they were asked to put up their hands at a camp, and what sounds to me like a possible over-emphasis on having some separation. That leads into a whole discussion that would take too much time in this post, but briefly, we do have our own distinctiveness and common boundaries as Christians, and within that some have different boundaries to others. There is some diversity of
expression within the distinctiveness, and then there are those who cross the line into extremes which are pseudo-Christian. Bottom line - if mixing with those who are not of the same faith also involves you acting like a hypocrite then don't do it. Because then we have the very problem MS has nailed - people not walking the talk who are of no use to anyone. I still remember a guy from my highschool days (it wasn't a Christian school) who was a bully and nasty to people continuously, and who said he was a Christian. I didn't buy it. I also knew some real Christians, and I was taken with how genuine they were. Not perfect, but authentic. MS also adds:
"Those that are actually sure of their religion, of their faith, and of the fact they’ve chosen the right path, and don’t feel it necessary to trumpet it so everyone else thinks they’re cool and spiritual. Knowing these people has truly been and honour and an experience. It’s these people who are the future of the religion. If the school could create ten of these in each year, as opposed to one hundred of the other kind, then in the end, there would be more Christians in the world."Ah, some people have more surety than others at different times. But I think I understand what he says here. I also think that we develop surety on some things - it builds. It's easy to be sure when everything is hunky dory. But when we have a long illness, or someone dies, or we feel betrayed in a relationship, or some-one we love is hurt, or... you know, the big things, then we have to dig deep, and sometimes everything that can be shaken will be shaken, but we strengthen the good solid part that remains. And I think too, that MS has seen that when the Christian life is lived in truth and love, then it makes a positive and beneficial difference.
He asked what folk think so I thought I'd pitch my response back across the Tasman. It was an interesting and thought-provoking challenge.
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